Can Schools Punish Students For Social Media?

3 Pri 2021
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The Supreme Court has taken up a teenage cheerleader's free speech case after her school punished her for social media posts. Ana Kasparian, Wosny Lambre, and Alyssa Bernardino discuss on The Young Turks. Check out our poll HERE:
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"When 14-year-old Brandi Levy didn't make the varsity cut as a freshman cheerleader for the Mahanoy Golden Bears, she sounded off on social media, as teenagers are known to do."
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  • That girl looks like a grown woman

    casper daghostcasper daghost2 ditë më parë
  • Bullying or hateful language directed at people would certainly qualify for the school taking some form of action. But self censored coarse language in a rant with no direction other than the situation... two words: Not Guilty. A sensible thing to do would be a mandatory session with the school counselor to help the studen cope... but piling on, that only helps to create the next school shooter.

    bikkiikunbikkiikun2 ditë më parë
  • Suspension for vulgar language... America should start with protecting school children from being murdered en-masse, before it focuses on coarse language.

    bikkiikunbikkiikun2 ditë më parë
  • A leader says something stupid and there attacked the way not to have leader s say stupid things is teaching them before they are leaders.

    Gaming A.L.O.SGaming A.L.O.S4 ditë më parë
  • Schools will protect rapist and then pull this shit

    JUST3JUST34 ditë më parë
  • Georgia school district will and can suspend you from school if you get into trouble off school campus. Example: gets arrested on Saturday and suspended on Monday

    DEDMAN INCDEDMAN INC4 ditë më parë
  • You do not have a right to make a high school team. They didn't go to far. That was vulgar! She's a terrible teammate because she didn't get her way.

    otherZincotherZinc4 ditë më parë
  • Not sure I like the "sweeping decision" limiting school's authority off-campus (2:20). While burdensome to the school to adjudicate, what's the alternative, civil and criminal lawsuits involving minors? Not well-illustrated by this case, but in general, especially with regards to cyber-bullying, which mostly takes place after-hours.

    End Political CorruptionEnd Political Corruption5 ditë më parë
    • @End Political Corruption Well, I currently live in Brazil. The Private schools here punish (by punish I mean most students get a discount/sale price but infractions means you have to pay "regular" price, or loose scholarships, and stuff) if a student does something off campus while the kid is in uniform, on their social media that also states where they go, OR if the parents do something and that parent is known to have students going to that school. PARENTS!. I know. I got a first strike for posting stuff in 2016. I am Pro-Choice and Support LGBTQ causes and am Pagan myself and it was all in English (Not the local language, which is Portuguese, and therefore even less likely to come to a potential or fellow parent's attention) but I got a strike because the school I sent my kid to was a Christian High School (Public schools here are worse than inner city American schools when it comes to funding, teacher competence, curriculum, teacher/student ratio and over all education and they aren't really secular either. By that I mean they have a religions class that teaches that there are several religions out there. In the class that covers Hinduism, they clinically state that the followers of the religion believes XYZ. But when they teach Christianity they teach Jesus IS the son of God and not maintain the same clinical Christians believe that XYZ). I have two Facebook accounts, one for my family and American friends in English, and the other for all my Brazilian friends and contacts. The American account wasn't even registered with the school. I got caught because my daughter friended both my pages and they followed the rabbit hole to see who her friends are (Or someone did and enlightened them - though given she was the only foreign born student there I think they were planning on using her as a poster child to boost enrollment like the top school in the state that has three. Their parents got heavy discounted tuition in exchange for their image on the billboard and the saying: so good even Americans send their kids here. So they were probably doing their due diligence before approaching me). They felt my promotion of "Satanic" (Because anything with a pentagram is Satanic to them) images, as well as abortion and homosexuality was detrimental to their school image (even when that account was not connected to them in any way. It didn't even host any pictures of my daughter, in uniform or not. (I'm one of those that feels exposing children to a digital footprint so early is detrimental.) I gave my daughter the choice when she turned 14 and could have her own account.) So I am highly opinionated when it comes to non-directed comments that "may" harm the school image or don't align with the ideology of the school.

      ChibiHoshiDragonChibiHoshiDragon4 ditë më parë
    • @ChibiHoshiDragon Agreed, which is why I wrote "not well-illustrated by this case", but was musing about the impact of its ruling(s) on other school-related cases.

      End Political CorruptionEnd Political Corruption4 ditë më parë
    • Cyber-bullying has a victim She didn't direct her comment onto a person, she really didn't even direct it to the actual institution, only abstract concepts. School, cheer, softball, everything She did not say: School name/Teacher/principal/board, cheer team name or members/athletes, the softball team name or any of the players, etc.

      ChibiHoshiDragonChibiHoshiDragon4 ditë më parë
  • School is where you learn that free speech only applies to those in power. You learn the Constitution doesn't apply to you. You're stuck in an institution you don't have a choice about. Then they apply stupid rules like you can't wear a black shirt with a cow skull on it because it's "Satanic". Or getting suspended for having hormones and growing facial hair.

    TwistedTurtleTwistedTurtle5 ditë më parë
  • No, schools should in fact NOT be getting involved in what the kids are doing when they are not in school👍

    Grand SpringdaleGrand Springdale5 ditë më parë
  • School def overreacted, and they should lawfully be in trouble for overreaching.

    Clint YoungClint Young5 ditë më parë
  • I think the issue is interesting, but this case is less than ideal. The child had signed an agreement with the school about appropriate behavior. Not the best test case.

    Jeff MillerJeff Miller5 ditë më parë
  • She’s an entitled brat, but the school overreacted a bit. Especially seeing that it was off campus.

    NCC-1701NCC-17015 ditë më parë
    • @John Doe lol

      NCC-1701NCC-17015 ditë më parë
    • Entitled brat? YOU sound like an entitled brat.

      John DoeJohn Doe5 ditë më parë

    Maxamillian SteeleMaxamillian Steele5 ditë më parë
  • Well well seems like the US is not such a free place after all I though you guys have total freedom of speech

    HardWorkingDoggoHardWorkingDoggo5 ditë më parë
  • Social media is worthless. Get rid of it all, you don’t need any of it.

    PlastervillePlasterville5 ditë më parë

    Sun DialSun Dial6 ditë më parë
    • @LITTLE RICHIE OK...They can cane boys as well..are you pleased now as only girls should be spanked in my opinion ..which should be livestreamed...but i'm sure your boyfriend agrees with you..

      Sun DialSun Dial5 ditë më parë
    • The pysch ward just callled, your room is ready.

  • Pathetic brat who did not get her way and vented and paid the consequence. Most sports have codes of conduct and she violated them.

    Trystan KnightTrystan Knight6 ditë më parë
    • @John Doe I thought she vented because she did not make the Varsity Cheer Squad. I think a number of people who are on these squads would take exception to the notion they are not a sport. This is just another case of an someone who thinks by virtue who they are, be it race, gender wealth status or something else, they are entitled to something they did not earn. Didn't Michael Jordan or another famous basketball player not make the team on his first attempt in High School and rather than pout he doubled his effort and look where he ended up. Most "organized" school activities be they sports or clubs or whatever have a code of conduct. To dismiss her brat like social media version of stomping her feet seems to be a mistake in my view. Too many people use social media and the internet to give voice to their darker impulses that they would not actually say to the person face to face. I think to sanction this behavior is a mistake. Trolls are trolls regardless of their age, gender or social status. And in case you wonder, yes what I say on line I would have no problem saying to someone's face. Truth is truth here or in person. Though it is merely my truth and I do not expect or demand anyone else accept it as their truth.

      Trystan KnightTrystan Knight4 ditë më parë
    • She was not in a sport setting.

      John DoeJohn Doe5 ditë më parë
    • If she was 21, I'd agree. She's at school, a place where she's supposed to learn. This could have been a better teaching experience than a punishment.

      NewhamMattNewhamMatt5 ditë më parë
  • It’s not the place of schools to police students - what a student does off campus on his own time is not their business. Period.

    Frank CastleFrank Castle6 ditë më parë
  • She wasn't attacking anyone. She was just venting. I don't think there was anything wrong with this. It was in her own time, not at school, so the school has no business punishing her for it.

    Adam TaylorAdam Taylor6 ditë më parë
  • This is the world we have created now. And it isn't just this teenage girl's fault .. it is the fault of the government, the corporations, etc. Think, when MTG likes stuff and post stuff, she gets booted off of her committees. When the Teen Vogue person posted stuffo on twitter, they got held against her and caused her resignation. Everything that people do on social media is now allowed to be used against them. To say they went too far is an understatement, but you don't get to pick and choose. If you say they went too far, then the Teen Vogue girl shouldn't have been pushed to resign, and MTG should be back on her committees. This is all-or-nothing ... accept that social media happens and people are going to do what they do, or tell people that everything that they post on social media can come back to haunt them.

    Fact CheckerFact Checker6 ditë më parë
  • Let her parents punish her for that.

    UNtheistUNtheist6 ditë më parë
  • I agree with her dad. If they had just pulled her aside and talked about how what she says can have a impact on how people see her, and she should always think twice before posting while angry, then that would have been fine. She was off school property, it was the weekend, and she didn't threaten anyone at the school. Total bullshit

    WhenWeAreNotAroundWhenWeAreNotAround6 ditë më parë
  • Our public officials do whatever they want with little to no consequences but we expect more from our children. Do as I say, not what I do. Schools in our area suspend kids for actions on the weekend---the police report to the schools. An argument at home, if someone calls the police results in suspension from school. A fight on a Saturday, not on school property, suspended from school. So without a trial or being found guilty, they receive a sentence from the school. It's a violation of their rights.

    Joyce WardJoyce Ward6 ditë më parë
  • Yet you’re fine with banning a sitting president from Twitter or banning entire apps like Parler from Amazon web-services? Hypocritical fam.. Speech is protected for everyone including those you disagree with, otherwise, it ALWAYS circles back..

    Bang Bang BoBang Bang Bo6 ditë më parë
    • Your hero TRUMP was inciting violence with his tweets. This girl was upset she didn't make the cheer team. Big difference.

  • I typed "F*CK" into my grade schools(6th grade) writing application server login page. So every computer in school could see it. This was in school on school computers i only got 1 day ISS. Like how do u justify what they did to this girl? I swear

    CaptainToyotaCaptainToyota6 ditë më parë
  • Man if i had kids i would instill in them how dangerous social media is. Its insane how much we are letting kids be brainwashed thinking anything on social media really matters. It would be much better for kids to stay away from it being a kid is hard enough. Also F*CK this school for hurting this kids life because of things said outside of school. Id never been allowed in school if things outside of school effected it.

    CaptainToyotaCaptainToyota6 ditë më parë
  • Easy question to answer. Do you think regular people who aren't students should be punished for social media use? Depending on the answer to that question, you will have the answer to the previous one.

    Cry HavocCry Havoc6 ditë më parë
    • @Adam Taylor I agree. Thats exactly how everyone else is treated.

      Cry HavocCry Havoc6 ditë më parë
    • Well, it depends on what the use is. If she was bullying other students, then yes, I'd say the school has a right to step in, as they are responsible for protecting other students. However, she didn't do that, so they had no business punishing her. If someone makes racists posts on social media, then definitely use that against them. If they attack others, by all means. But if they're just venting... they're not hurting anyone, so there's no need for action.

      Adam TaylorAdam Taylor6 ditë më parë
  • Bs welcome to America where they’d rather rot kids brains then let them be productive and active

    Deangelo GilliamDeangelo Gilliam6 ditë më parë
  • No. That’s a complete violation of our first amendment. Cancel culture isn’t to fun is it when it backfires on you.

    I drink Commie tearsI drink Commie tears6 ditë më parë
    • @Karl Dubhe I just think it’s bs Twitter is a “private company” so they can censor anyone. You don’t think that’s dangerous? They just deleted Trump’s Twitter page. What else can they get away with.

      I drink Commie tearsI drink Commie tears6 ditë më parë
    • @imnotmike Better off if you're not using any social media, really. Of course that doesn't include the ones that I use... :)

      Karl DubheKarl Dubhe6 ditë më parë
    • @Karl Dubhe Another important distinction is that Twitter can't really punish anybody. All they can do is keep you from using Twitter, which is a meaningless waste of time that has no effect on real life. The school can actually inflict punishments that will have a meaningful effect on your life. You're probably better off without a Twitter account in most circumstances anyways.

      imnotmikeimnotmike6 ditë më parë
    • @I drink Commie tears Twitter is a private company, not the government. I thought hard core Conservatives supported the free market? Or is that only when they do what you want??? I am continually amazed by how little you know of your own nation's Constitution. We teach civics and how the government works here in Canada. Don't you? On edit; to be clear, the government (school in this case) has no right to punish the kid, but if Twitter does it, that's a different thing.

      Karl DubheKarl Dubhe6 ditë më parë
    • @Yagotta Kidding no kidding. People on the left are now being canceled on Twitter. I can’t believe they think the constitution doesn’t apply to them smh.

      I drink Commie tearsI drink Commie tears6 ditë më parë
  • The option is having the city or the state take care of it so take your pick

    Edward BarretteEdward Barrette6 ditë më parë
    • And if it's not that big of a problem that shouldn't be that big problem in the 1st place

      Edward BarretteEdward Barrette6 ditë më parë
  • Wait a minute! YOU don't care about free speech. What happened to 'you are free to speak but not free from consequences'? These are consequences. If you think you can cancel a conservative from Twitter for mispronouning a trans person, then this school is WELL within its rights. Get rid of your double standards before making a video like this.

    Curtis SmaleCurtis Smale6 ditë më parë
    • @Hiriajuu Suffering Random? Perhaps get a dictionary. I'm not spelling out such a small and easy to understand word for you. Critical Race Theory is PROVEN to be racially discriminatory and used in government, academia and business. Its applications violate the 14th Amendment. When you don't take an Amendment seriously, don't expect others to take it seriously. This is about having universal standards, not double standards. If you can't understand that basic premise you are among the many who are lost beyond hope. Good luck surviving, I figure every day is a challenge for you.

      Curtis SmaleCurtis Smale5 ditë më parë
    • @Curtis Smale randomly criticizing critical race theory is absolutely not speaking as an adult

      Hiriajuu SufferingHiriajuu Suffering5 ditë më parë
    • @Hiriajuu Suffering I'm sorry, I tend to speak at an adult comprehension level. Allow me to dumb it down a bit: The 14th Amendment exists. Some people violate it with policies based upon Critical Race Theory and other nonsense. Then you tell me that I should EXPECT the 14th Amendment to have meaning... What meaning does it have if it exists but is violated? That's like having a law against murder but no police to catch murderers.

      Curtis SmaleCurtis Smale5 ditë më parë
    • I can't even tell what you're on about, but it's clear it's not juvenile rights since essentially no race intersections are in this issue

      Hiriajuu SufferingHiriajuu Suffering5 ditë më parë
    • @Hiriajuu Suffering If one side persistently abuses an amendment you believe that we can still expect it to be upheld? Uh, I think you need a lesson in logic. Abuse of an amendment compromises any expectancy of it being upheld in future. Critical Race Theory is an affront to equal treatment under the law based upon race. CRT pushes motions to privilege black people or pull down white people. Such behavior violates the idea that we should all be treated fairly. There are numerous situations in which CRT is used to hire/fire people from government positions, or to change who gets what score in SATs for university entry.

      Curtis SmaleCurtis Smale5 ditë më parë
  • Land of the increasingly less free, home of the intimidated.

    Gregg HillGregg Hill6 ditë më parë
    • Largest prison population on Earth, and you're only just noticing that the prison walls are porous?

      Karl DubheKarl Dubhe6 ditë më parë
  • The witch used a magical word without thinking of the spells she was casting. Of course crusader high banished her from their ranks. Really though, what bullshyte.

    AbstractAuditionAbstractAudition6 ditë më parë
  • TBH who the hell gived their school their social media account when they were younger

    Chase StinerChase Stiner6 ditë më parë
    • this happened to me ten years ago, you don't give your schools your socials. vindictive teachers literally hunt this shit down because it makes their work life easier not to deal with you. if you weren't prepared to be empathetic to troubled teenagers, don't be a high school teacher. also, a current HS teacher now.

      Hiriajuu SufferingHiriajuu Suffering6 ditë më parë
  • Hold on here... Varsity when she was a freshman??? was she that good??? They need to get the vets on the team that have been at every practice and squad meet for years.. she shouldnt be mad..

    Benny DeweyBenny Dewey6 ditë më parë
  • How is this even a question? Here is an idea...try parenting, try not snooping, try giving you child space to vent....WTF!

    ChristopherChristopher6 ditë më parë
  • This is so ridiculous, what is wrong with the school?

    until the end comesuntil the end comes6 ditë më parë
  • Only in extreme situations, like with bullying, etc..

  • School's already punished students for social media hell schools will punish students for having the "wrong" political views.

    The freest of speechThe freest of speech6 ditë më parë
  • Conservative priorities. A child drops an f-bomb on school. Conservatives: DESTROY THIS PERSON. US drops a literal bomb on a school. Conservatives: Support the military!

    XyCrosierXyCrosier6 ditë më parë
  • Social media should be banned.

    The 401KThe 401K6 ditë më parë
  • HELL YES!!! not only should her ass have been kicked the hell of cheerleading team the PARENT's ass should have told her ass to go and sit your ass down somewhere!!!

    freesia Ffreesia F6 ditë më parë
    • The pysch ward just callled. Your room is ready.

  • No, for the fact that she used her own media, and that she is in titled to say what she wants, and according to the facts that she was cautious about what she has said.

    Philip LombardoPhilip Lombardo6 ditë më parë
    • It's "entitled", dear ;)

      Adam StringerAdam Stringer6 ditë më parë
  • Athletes are held to the same standard because they still represent the school on and off the field. It's one year. Learn and don't repeat.

    Julius RobinsonJulius Robinson7 ditë më parë
    • @Hiriajuu Suffering Because it happened to the woman in the Disney show, the guy in the flash show, people on Twitter, writers, the kid who was rejected by a college & etc. Better to learn when it's nothing than learn when it counts.

      Julius RobinsonJulius Robinson6 ditë më parë
    • okay, so because the same thing happened to Michael Jordan and he expressed his frustrations about it years later, the Bulls should've cut him?

      Hiriajuu SufferingHiriajuu Suffering6 ditë më parë
    • @Jammit Timmaj Better to learn now than to be an adult and lose your job or be put on a no hire list. Sometimes your words matter and follow you.

      Julius RobinsonJulius Robinson6 ditë më parë
    • For disagreeing with someone?

      Jammit TimmajJammit Timmaj6 ditë më parë
  • Schools have no right to be snooping around in student's social media. Are they going to start reading their diaries now too?

    TsubasaTsubasa7 ditë më parë
  • If conservatives didn't control the supreme court I would say she is about to win this case. But because of that you just don't know. This is absolutely going against free speech.

    Linksaze 380Linksaze 3807 ditë më parë
  • I used to talk mad shit to teachers when not at school, and when one made the mistake of bringing that shit into the classroom my parents got the pos fired. Schools got to learn they have zero authority when not on campus during school hours.

    Ilmenheru TeriksonIlmenheru Terikson7 ditë më parë
  • When I was in high school, I ran for student government. When the advisors asked me what my platform would be, I said restoring First Amendment Rights to students. I argued that because school is compulsory(private schools are not) that the school has no right to implement dress codes etc. Then I proceeded to say, if the school doesn't get rid of the dress code, I'm going to get the entire student body to not show up, because they aren't going to suspend 750 of us. I was informed that not only did I not understand the point of student government, I was also informed that the advisors would not allow me to run. In addition I envisioned implementing a Checks and Balances type power structure between the Studeny Body, Admin and School Board and the Admin was like nope lol.

    For A More Perfect AmericaFor A More Perfect America7 ditë më parë
    • You were injecting too much of the real world into the school, for their liking, Lol.

      Gummy GrizzlyGummy Grizzly6 ditë më parë
  • Okay can the school just calm down, this is posted on a weekend off campus on a private account! On top of it it doesn't sound like she really put anything horrible in her post, other than the f word and I'm willing to bet each and every adult that works in that office uses it interchangeably on a daily basis.

    Susan HeplerSusan Hepler7 ditë më parë
  • They stupid first off how they get that post if it was during her freshman year and second no it's not their job to monitor a kids post if she wasn't bullying no one saying something harmful then what the school did was wrong.

    Ninja Love14Ninja Love147 ditë më parë
  • You know seeing I'm a dad of three so in my day at school there wasn't social media so it kept school and home life separate those were way less stressful days no matter what social media follows kids where ever they go I can't imagine I know there's great things about social media yeah but as a person who enjoyed the world before the internet and social media in my view both of these things have hurt the world more then helping it and as far as this goes it all depends on what the kid is doing on social media if there cyber bulling yes but other times it could be there crying out for help

    Tommy ScavettaTommy Scavetta7 ditë më parë
  • What's with this creepy obsession of people in power trying to look for speech online that's "borderline?" It's rediculous. Like they literally have nothing better to do so we're forced to have the same stupid conversation over and over. It's almost like a form of stalking. If THIS is modernity, I don't want it. I wouldn't be surprised if they're pleasuring themselves in the process.

    Coolnvigilant OutreachCoolnvigilant Outreach7 ditë më parë
    • @Coolnvigilant Outreach I agree with your assessment.

      SoySauce HairDyeSoySauce HairDye7 ditë më parë
    • @SoySauce HairDye I think it's coincidental that one of the x CDC directors hypothesize that this COVID came from a lab. If I were more conspiratorially minded, it wouldn't be that much more of a reach for me to think this is all suspiciously coincidental. Obviously covid needs to be conquered, and I do plan on taking the vaccine. However, that being said, the whole situation, to some extent has forced people into being a captive audience. It's sort of bottle necked people into unconsentually being forced into technological utilization of they want human interaction. In short terms, coercion. That to which can only be achieved through abruptly imposing isolation and encouraging paranoia.

      Coolnvigilant OutreachCoolnvigilant Outreach7 ditë më parë
    • Social media has always been Big Brother watching over their citizens under the guise of societal improvements in communication. People concerned should just stay off platforms like Facebook and Twitter as honestly they are a pretty pointless waste of time that induce depression for a lot of people.

      SoySauce HairDyeSoySauce HairDye7 ditë më parë
  • After school stuff is solely the parents' responsibility, not the school's. The school went out of their jurisdiction.

    A SwaneyA Swaney7 ditë më parë
  • Bruh in the hood we say all that to a teachers face 😂😂😂 Imagine this really making it’s way to the Supreme Court . This country 😃🤷🏽‍♂️😂😂😂

    AyefernoAyeferno7 ditë më parë
    • @Chad Lieb 😅😂😂😂 That’s hilarious

      AyefernoAyeferno7 ditë më parë
    • I prefer it that way. At least you have a dialogue and aren't getting the whole country involved.

      Chad LiebChad Lieb7 ditë më parë
  • She sucked, she cried, she’s white, she gets an interview .... what’s the problem people ?

    quyen nguyenquyen nguyen7 ditë më parë
    • I wish the ACLU backed me up as a South Asian American Male when my rookie White Male teacher pulled this on me my senior year.

      Hiriajuu SufferingHiriajuu Suffering6 ditë më parë
    • What are you on about?

      True EnnufTrue Ennuf7 ditë më parë
  • Ah yes, because teenage stress can be treated as "we might take you out out of school". Honestly, if schools actually gave a shit about mental health they would have been like "hey, what's wrong?" instead of "you're getting punished". The school was WAY out of line.

    Never Ending ProductionsNever Ending Productions7 ditë më parë
    • @Keith Carlton maybe you missed my response, but I take it you weren't able to find cite how her post was public?

      EpicaricacyEpicaricacy2 ditë më parë
    • Still, if you punish according to the expect best behavior instead of a reasonable worst behavior, that's when institutions become totally unreasonable and no longer value individuality in their employees.

      Hiriajuu SufferingHiriajuu Suffering2 ditë më parë
    • @Hiriajuu Suffering So there are 2 points for this, First, in work, like athletics, they have codes of conduct and many employers do put things in there about "not tarnishing the brand/company" or something to that effect. As this is part of your employment contract, breaking it would in fact be a justifiable reason for termination. Those cases are rare but it is still justified. Secondly, (and in my mind more important) just because many other people do something does not make it right. There are millions of criminals in this country but that does not make it right to be a criminal. Although many adults choose to act in this way we should be choosing to personally hold ourselves to a higher standard for behavior than our peers and teaching our children to do the same. Personally, I am a pilot and many people fly and train enough to legally fly and this is acceptable to most people. However, all of the pilots that I look up to have taught me to go well beyond expectations and hold myself to a much higher standard for flying which makes me a better pilot and provides my passengers with an added level of safety when things become more difficult (i.e. weather or failures). I will never choose to base my behavior on the worst of those around me.

      Keith CarltonKeith Carlton2 ditë më parë
    • Adults talk crap about their workplace all the time but are civilly protected from being fired for any type of unjustifiable reason.

      Hiriajuu SufferingHiriajuu Suffering2 ditë më parë
    • @Hiriajuu Suffering What about what I said is holding teens to a higher standard than adults? I seriously do not see it.

      Keith CarltonKeith Carlton2 ditë më parë
  • I don't think that the schools should academically punish someone for off school* behavior, but here we are talking about extra curricular activities. These are optional, and should be able to set their own standards. That being said, from the sounds of it her venting rant, they seem to have set a very high bar. Like all such matters however, everyone digs in and defends their position. *I specifically didn't say off campus because physical location is not the only issue. If you are on a school trip then you need to adhere to school policy. Likewise if she posted on a school sponsored chatroom then she should be subject to school policy. If she just sent something to a group of her friends, then she is off school.

    Wict·Imov Go·Vo·NcaWict·Imov Go·Vo·Nca7 ditë më parë
    • really playing both sides there, eh?

      Hiriajuu SufferingHiriajuu Suffering6 ditë më parë
    • If this cheerleading squad stunts and throws baskets, a malcontent can be VERY dangerous. In those situations, defenseless kids are relying on their teammates to catch them on these skills to avoid catastrophic injury, paralysis or death. I've cancelled state competition and resigned from a job because I couldn't get rid of a malcontent, and the kid bailed on a basket toss. Luckily, the other base made the catch without getting hurt, but I couldn't take that risk.

      Chad LiebChad Lieb7 ditë më parë
  • It seems like they should have had the same policy schools all over the US have with other crimes. "It didn't happen on campus, so it is not our responsibility." If this is a precedent, then they have to go after all bad behavior off campus. Do they really want that responsibility?

    Iris BlakeIris Blake7 ditë më parë
    • @Hiriajuu Suffering Exactly my point. They should have not had any say in what she did outside of school.

      Iris BlakeIris Blake6 ditë më parë
    • No: teachers don't have the time and most administrators are too lazy to care about their students outside of work.

      Hiriajuu SufferingHiriajuu Suffering6 ditë më parë
  • So the school is fighting it to the Supreme Court... Wow... That alone is the school going too far... The family should make the school administration pay all legal expenses from their retirements/pensions, because that would end that type of BS fast. We need to start going for the retirement of government employees who do wrong, police, fire fighters, teachers, school administrators...

    Nick DodsonNick Dodson7 ditë më parë
    • idk what wrong fire fighters and teachers would be doing here? maybe a teacher that has a direct stake in the case, but administrator mismanagement seems to be the problem here

      Hiriajuu SufferingHiriajuu Suffering6 ditë më parë
  • The school is doing the bullying this time!

    Roz CollinsRoz Collins7 ditë më parë
    • Yes because simple consequences for your own actions is now considered “bullying”. Next you will tell me the cop bullied you for giving you a ticket after you chose to speed. Also there is a difference between the school and the team, the school did not punish her, academically nothing changed she was simply removed from an athletic team which is a privilege.

      Keith CarltonKeith Carlton6 ditë më parë
  • what a waste of time and resources. white people entitlement of the school administration .

    uzbekistan siberiauzbekistan siberia7 ditë më parë
  • You know... they are supposed to be in charge of kids to help them learn how society works. Yet when someone gets bullied, they literally don't do anything. A child who acts out and fights back against the bully, they punish that child... they suspend the victim. They put that kid on counseling and on medication... because they are too lazy to actually stop it before it starts. They are reactionary instead of being proactive in stopping bullying. A young girl speaks her mind, exposing her heart and feelings about the situation, and they suspend her for it? This is not an orwellian dystopia where they get to decide how she thinks. This is America, she has the right to voice her emotions, as long as her thoughts that are shared with any media platform doesn't promote violence or harm to the school, they don't any right to interfere with her education... it's called being an adult. The school is supposed to be ran by adults. If they are too much of a gaggle of Karens then they don't need to be in charge of any children or even around them.

    Chris ColquittChris Colquitt7 ditë më parë
  • Sounds like a Karen student.

    Shade BleuShade Bleu7 ditë më parë
    • Sounds like a Karen school administration.

      True EnnufTrue Ennuf7 ditë më parë
    • lol. sounds like a regular person.

      uzbekistan siberiauzbekistan siberia7 ditë më parë
  • And they say America has freedom of speech

    CJAY stonerted4202CJAY stonerted42027 ditë më parë
  • Why schools are so dumb lots of money giving none is used they get made when u speak

    CJAY stonerted4202CJAY stonerted42027 ditë më parë
    • most states took away speech classes as a requirement because it's too inconvenient to have children that could reason with them

      Hiriajuu SufferingHiriajuu Suffering6 ditë më parë
  • Schools acting like creeps and bullies here.

    Leo SicairosLeo Sicairos7 ditë më parë
  • Schools don’t have jurisdiction off campus. That’s the end of it.

    Chase VisserChase Visser7 ditë më parë
  • libtards reap what they sow

    MoFMoF7 ditë më parë
    • Conservatards are domestic terrorists.

      True EnnufTrue Ennuf7 ditë më parë
  • Isnt it funny? Conservatives always love free speech, except when free speech criticizes Conservatives.

    Mo ElmMo Elm7 ditë më parë
  • She`s not H2O2-Peroxide blonde... she is not beautiful... of course she didnt make the team.

    Mo ElmMo Elm7 ditë më parë
  • The school has no right to act the way they did. Pot calling the kettle black.

    Ian CummingIan Cumming7 ditë më parë
  • Conservative kids have been getting punished for expressing themselves on social media for a while now. You people don't give a shit, you love it.

    Tartersauce101Tartersauce1017 ditë më parë
  • I believe the coach should have the right and ability to punish or remove her from the team for a bad team attitude that this seems to show with her teammates but the threat of suspending or expulsion is ridiculous.

    Daniel LindyDaniel Lindy7 ditë më parë
    • for the full school year? I get a few months from the, presumably, JV squad, but that's a fourth of the student being able to build their resume? Even the removal itself was excessive.

      Hiriajuu SufferingHiriajuu Suffering6 ditë më parë
  • NO THEY SHOULD NOT!! Instead the school officials or teacher should be fired for not respecting the BASIC FREEDOM OF SPEECH! Trump LOST so the US is not yet a dictatorship!!l

    Tonny L NielsenTonny L Nielsen7 ditë më parë
    • As a high school teacher, I would get fired for less.

      Hiriajuu SufferingHiriajuu Suffering6 ditë më parë
  • lol the dont tread on me poeple are only there when hate speech and racism is involved. gotta be able to spew it without consequences lol

    OneßloodOneßlood7 ditë më parë
  • Girl needs to grow up.

    Linda SimonsLinda Simons7 ditë më parë
    • She's in the process...genius.

      True EnnufTrue Ennuf7 ditë më parë
    • what are you talking about? she already forgot about the whole thing, until they kicked her out, and until the case landed in front of Constitutional right lawyers. I think *YOU* need to grow up.

      Mo ElmMo Elm7 ditë më parë
    • virgin

      OneßloodOneßlood7 ditë më parë
  • this happen to me they said i was talking about a teacher in sexual way on twiiter because i took a pic of her and said this teacher a joke on the tweet

    SnazzyRapsSnazzyRaps7 ditë më parë
  • She was off campus, on the weekend & she didn't threaten/bully anyone. The school has no say here. (side note, here: she still sounds entitled. Freshman rarely make varsity - you have to work your way up to that)

    stecky87stecky877 ditë më parë
    • US schools want to act like a prosecutor , judge and executor in every issue , but not in school shootings , thats somehow something they dont deal with .. When it comes to pedo staff , rapes , minor saying something that a over 50 year old thinks is offensive , when Reagan decided so in 1980s , then its schools business and nothing that you should actually follow the laws of the country .

      Pete LindPete Lind7 ditë më parë
  • What I think should be looked at is: why is the school system trying to alter the output of anybody in relation to their operations? This should be available to why are they trying to silence her? What some people consider inappropriate language is immaterial, if what she wrote is accurate, that should be all that matters.

    daguard411daguard4117 ditë më parë
  • I'm sensing some deep narcissism and laughable entitlement, but that's just me.

    FuzzyworldFuzzyworld7 ditë më parë
    • You're absolutely right. You sound deeply narcissistic and laughably entitled to me as well.

      True EnnufTrue Ennuf7 ditë më parë
  • Social media is a vent for kids but also, people tend to harass, bully, gossip in unnacceptable ways on social media. But if that's all she said, the school went outside their jurisdiction.

    Starbird14Starbird147 ditë më parë
  • Being cut from sports is appropriate. Sports is about discipline (on and off the court).

    Castine Family ParadiseCastine Family Paradise7 ditë më parë
    • @Hiriajuu Suffering I don't think it's dangerous. Education is a right. Extracurricular is extra. If you want to participate, you have to hold yourself to a higher standard. If you're going to represent any type of team, you can't publicly disrespect that team. It's a good lesson for when you get out into the real world.

      Castine Family ParadiseCastine Family Paradise3 ditë më parë
    • sets a dangerous precedent for other extracurricular activities and that's the main way to keep kids engaged in school

      Hiriajuu SufferingHiriajuu Suffering6 ditë më parë
  • I'm Wosney. I went through this exact thing when I was cut from the cheerleading team.

    StelgaStelga7 ditë më parë
  • The ACLU will always be for free speech for people named Levy.

    Bob BarryBob Barry7 ditë më parë
    • @LITTLE RICHIE And anti-LGBT, dismissive of systemic racism, ignorant of history.

      Christopher CChristopher C6 ditë më parë
    • Antisemitic much?

  • How and why is this school spending so much money on lawyers? Don't they haver any hungry kids in their school district who could benefit from some of those funds?

    Lord Of LinuxLord Of Linux7 ditë më parë
  • The school needs to learn how to deescalate

    chris virginiachris virginia7 ditë më parë
  • Cancel culture

    chris virginiachris virginia7 ditë më parë
  • Children should only have cell phones if they have a job to pay for the bill . I made it all the way to 22 years old before I had my 1st cell phone . Which means I made it all the way through Preschool, Elementary school , Junior High school, High school and some of college with out one . It is entirely possible to get through life without a phone . Not to mention that when I went to Preschool, Elementary school, Junior High school , and High school Cell phones and pagers were not allowed on campus .

    TheGod0f AwesomeTheGod0f Awesome7 ditë më parë
    • While I also have reservations about cellphone usage among youth today... "It was good enough for me" a GARBAGE excuse that only exists to validate bad behavior.

      MAGAT slayerMAGAT slayer7 ditë më parë
    • Makes sense to me.

      Linda SimonsLinda Simons7 ditë më parë
  • Online bullying/ hate speech... maybe But venting, having an opinion, using so called "bad words" on the weekens on your own device ... FULL STOP!

    Ally BaileyAlly Bailey7 ditë më parë
  • Kids aren't the only one's that are criticizing their school. That's bullshit. The school is the bully here.

    Rose wright WrightRose wright Wright7 ditë më parë
  • 🎼Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb🎶

    Brett NicholsBrett Nichols7 ditë më parë
  • Bruh this school literally says they can enforce school rules off school.

    yankees88888gyankees88888g7 ditë më parë
  • So this girl can't be on the team until the supreme court makes a judgement on her case? Wow.. why even bother? So now her life is on hold until the supreme court gets around to it? Unfair! because some lawyer is using her as an example to further their career!!

    MeMyPCandIMeMyPCandI7 ditë më parë
  • what sort of future are we looking at when the coming generation has been raised on pharmaceuticals, surveillance and nihilism? i shudder to think...

    Telephonicus MaximiniusTelephonicus Maximinius7 ditë më parë
  • cheerleading career is a male construct... lol

    Boomer FunBoomer Fun7 ditë më parë
    • regardless, it still creates opportunities for young women that want to find opportunity in our deeply patriarchal society

      Hiriajuu SufferingHiriajuu Suffering6 ditë më parë
  • Yes for bullying, no for everything else.

    Black BritBlack Brit7 ditë më parë
  • No they need to know their place. Schools are so worthless with their rules. Always backwards.

    Madda LenaMadda Lena7 ditë më parë
  • Yes that's why it's important for parents to keep children off social media for as long as possible. Because there's going to be consequences when you get out of high school why wouldn't there be consequences in high school? it teaches people to be accountable.

    Henry TownshedHenry Townshed7 ditë më parë
    • @Above Ground shut up Karen. I'm sick of your racist President and I'm sick of you. You work for The Young Turks because nobody can be *that* obsessed with this "grifting Network" unless you just that dumb. I doubt it though because you don't donate money to The Young Turks even though you Simp for them.

      Henry TownshedHenry Townshed6 ditë më parë
    • You *cultists* should have told that to *The Leader of the Coup...*

      Above GroundAbove Ground7 ditë më parë
  • The idea of vulgar language shouldn't be a thing

    Arrow OddArrow Odd7 ditë më parë
    • thank you!

      margaret johnsonmargaret johnson7 ditë më parë